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Bride is part of Israel

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‘The bride is part of Israel and Israel is part of the bride!
Jan Willem van der Hoeven, Director
INTERNATIONAL CHRISTIAN ZIONIST CENTER
The bride is part of Israel and Israel is part of the bride!

This is so clearly seen in the majestic vision by the angel in Revelation when he says: “Come I will show you the bride, the Lamb’s wife.”

One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb.”  And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God.  It shone with the glory of God, and its brilliance was like that of a very precious jewel, like jasper, clear as crystal.  It had a great, high wall with twelve gates, and with twelve angels at the gates.  On the gates were written the names of the twelve tribes of Israel.  There were three gates on the east, three on the north, three on the south and three on the west.  The wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. (Revelation 21:9-14; emphasis added)

This is actually entirely consistent with many other scriptural references which hold that in the end there will be only ONE FLOCK, ONE ISRAEL OF GOD, ONE BODY, ONE JERUSALEM, ONE BRIDE – Jew and Gentile forged into one Tree or Commonwealth of Israel.

Under the strong influence of the separation – which particularly Constantine, the Roman emperor, was responsible for – which cut the Gentile church off from its original Jewish tree and roots, Christianity became a separate, distinct religion. And even after the Reformation and various evangelical and charismatic awakenings, Gentile believers on the whole were taught that they belonged to a separate body called the church, or Bride of Christ. that would one day be separately treated with a heavenly rapture before the Lord in His mercy returns to Israel.

This, however, is NOT what the Bible teaches, and certainly in this wonderful passage in The Revelation we unmistakably find that Israel – all the tribes of Israel -are seen as part of the bride or the heavenly Jerusalem.

This is not being taught in most churches today – where the unbiblical emphasis brought into the world by Constantine is furthered, teaching that the Gentile-based church is the heavenly Jerusalem or bride of Christ, and that Israel is the other people of God; loved by Him and even to become His people once again, but all this only AFTER the bride has gone to be with her Messiah and Lord.

This – again – is not what the Word of God teaches; yet this unbiblical understanding has opened the way for the Evil One to seduce us into believing in the theory of the rapture of “the church” as a distinct and separate entity from Israel.

Israel herself, according to the many Bible teachers who uphold this erroneous doctrine, will then STILL have to go through the valley of the great Jacob’s Trouble or Tribulation.

Nothing is further from the truth, as we shall find out also later on from many a scripture.

But first and foremost we have to establish the biblical fact of the unity of God’s people.

It is indeed ONE tree and commonwealth of Israel, as Paul so clearly teaches in his epistle to the Romans. The Gentiles – soon coming to our intended fullness in numbers – have been given the immense privilege, because of our repentance and faith in Jesus, of being grafted into the tree or commonwealth of Israel.

We have not formed a new tree called the church into which we were grafted, but because of our faith we were given the privilege of being grafted into the tree of Israel with all the believing Jews, and with the promise that the other Jews, taken out because of their unbelief – will one day be grafted back – not onto a new tree called the church, but onto THEIR OWN TREE, into which we have already been grafted.

This therefore leaves us only with one tree, one flock, one stick united, one heavenly Jerusalem, ONE body (see Ephesians 2:11-24) and one commonwealth of Israel. Just as the prophet Ezekiel is told that the two sticks will become one, or as Jesus said, ‘ that the other sheep He had – the Gentile believers – would become ONE FLOCK together with the chosen people of Israel:

“And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one shepherd.” (John 10:16).

When, as promised, the wind of the Holy Spirit will be poured out upon the people of Israel – as prophesied by Ezekiel, Joel and Zechariah – it is only then, when all Israel will have been regenerated, that the Gentile believers worldwide, chosen and redeemed from every tribe and nation, will be able to become totally one people with the born again Israel of God. And they will.

This promised outpouring of God’s Spirit – of which Pentecost, when the wind of the Spirit filled 120 Jewish believers was a foreshadowing – will happen BEFORE the physical return of the Lord! It will therefore give Gentile believers the time to relate to this miraculous spiritual restoration of Israel years before the actual physical coming of the Lord.

Just think of it! Zechariah 12 tells us that God will pour out a spirit of grace and supplication on His Jewish people with the result that they will see Him whom they have pierced  – it will be as a result of this tremendous outpouring NOT as a result of Jesus’ physical return. This spiritual wakening is about to happen and I believe will occur during a coming Feast of Tabernacles.

But think of it: When it happens, what an effect this will have on the worldwide community of Gentile believers, when they will hear and witness that all Israel has been saved and that there will be no one Israeli who will have to tell his fellow Israel: know the Lord. For as Jeremiah prophesied: they shall all know Him:

“No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the LORD,’ for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the LORD. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”(Jeremiah 31:34; emphasis added).

Indeed, all of Israel will be saved and we gentile believers will then be able to be fully one people with them as, according to the word of God, we, when we came to Christ, were grafted in among the believing Jewish branches of the tree and commonwealth of Israel. One people. One flock. ONE heavenly Jerusalem waiting for the glorious coming and re-entry of our Lord and Messiah into this world.

This is a very important point – not preached by many – who have been taught that only at the physical second coming of the Lord will Israel be saved. This, however, is NOT what the prophets Ezekiel, Zechariah and Joel prophesy:

“For I will take you from among the nations, gather you out of all countries, and bring you into your own land.  Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols.  I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh.  I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them.  Then you shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; you shall be My people, and I will be your God.  I will deliver you from all your uncleannesses. I will call for the grain and multiply it, and bring no famine upon you.  And I will multiply the fruit of your trees and the increase of your fields, so that you need never again bear the reproach of famine among the nations.  Then you will remember your evil ways and your deeds that were not good; and you will loathe yourselves in your own sight, for your iniquities and your abominations.  Not for your sake do I do this,” says the Lord GOD, “let it be known to you. Be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel!”(Ezekiel 36:24-32; emphasis added)

Also He said to me, “Prophesy to the breath, prophesy, son of man, and say to the breath, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD: “Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe on these slain, that they may live.”‘”  So I prophesied as He commanded me, and breath came into them, and they lived, and stood upon their feet, an exceedingly great army. … “I will put My Spirit in you, and you shall live, and I will place you in your own land. Then you shall know that I, the LORD, have spoken it and performed it,” says the LORD.’” (Ezekiel 37:9,10,14)

“And it shall come to pass afterward

That I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh;

Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
Your old men shall dream dreams,
Your young men shall see visions.
And also on My menservants and on My maidservants
I will pour out My Spirit in those days.” (Joel 2:28-29; emphasis added)

“And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn. In that day there shall be a great mourning in Jerusalem, like the mourning at Hadad Rimmon in the plain of Megiddo.  And the land shall mourn, every family by itself: the family of the house of David by itself, and their wives by themselves; the family of the house of Nathan by itself, and their wives by themselves; the family of the house of Levi by itself, and their wives by themselves; the family of Shimei by itself, and their wives by themselves; all the families that remain, every family by itself, and their wives by themselves. (Zechariah 12:10-14; emphasis added)

“In that day a fountain shall be opened for the house of David and for the inhabitants of Jerusalem, for sin and for uncleanness.” (Zechariah 13:1; emphasis added)

“So you shall know that I am the LORD your God,
Dwelling in Zion My holy mountain.
Then Jerusalem shall be holy,
And no aliens shall ever pass through her again.”

And it will come to pass in that day
That the mountains shall drip with new wine,
The hills shall flow with milk,
And all the brooks of Judah shall be flooded with water;
A fountain shall flow from the house of the LORD
And water the Valley of Acacias.  (Joel 3:17-18; emphasis added)

‘Fear not, O Jacob My servant;
And you, Jeshurun, whom I have chosen.
For I will pour water on him who is thirsty,
And floods on the dry ground;
I will pour My Spirit on your descendants,
And My blessing on your offspring;
They will spring up among the grass
Like willows by the watercourses.’
One will say, ‘I am the LORD’s';
Another will call himself by the name of Jacob;
Another will write with his hand, ‘The LORD’s,’
And name himself by the name of Israel. (Isaiah 44:1-5; emphasis added)

Thus we all may look forward – however bad the times in which we live may become all over the world – and indeed, when the thickening darkness will cover the nations of this world, something wonderful will happen in and with Israel. God, as He promised, will pour out His Spirit on the whole nation, causing Israel to enter her most wonderful hour of fullness and fulfillment. As Paul writes about this coming miracle, already in his epistle to the Romans:

Now if their fall is riches for the world, and their failure riches for the Gentiles, how much more their fullness! … For if their being cast away is the reconciling of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? (Romans 11:12,15)

Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and His ways past finding out!
“For who has known the mind of the LORD?
Or who has become His counselor?”
“Or who has first given to Him
And it shall be repaid to him?”

For of Him and through Him and to Him are all things, to whom be glory forever. Amen. (Romans 11:33-36)

May this day, when the Gentile believers will become fully ONE with the spiritually restored Israel – ONE FLOCK WITH ONE LORD – speedily come!

website-www.israelmybeloved.com
International Christian Zionist Center
P.O. Box 49063
91490 Jerusalem, ISRAEL

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No Balm, is there no Physician?

‘A Wise Man Once said “I Returned and I Saw vanity under the Sun!’


Ecclesiastes 4:1  ¶So I returned, and considered all the oppressions that are done under the sun: and behold the tears of such as were oppressed, and they had no comforter; and on the side of their oppressors there was power; but they had no comforter.
2  Wherefore I praised the dead which are already dead more than the living which are yet alive.
3  Yea, better is he than both they, which hath not yet been, who hath not seen the evil work that is done under the sun.
4  ¶Again, I considered all travail, and every right work, that for this a man is envied of his neighbour. This is also vanity and vexation of spirit.
5  The fool foldeth his hands together, and eateth his own flesh.
6  Better is an handful with quietness, than both the hands full with travail and vexation of spirit.
7  ¶Then I returned, and I saw vanity under the sun
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“Amidst a season of trouble, there awaits a heart of Mercy”

by the Watchman Dana G Smith
Keywords: heart, Lord, God, Jesus, Christ, despair, discontent, winter, depression, love
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As I sit here in the early morning hours, the weather has been warming up. The cold snap has moved away. Thus another portion begins. One begins, another follows, till the season of winter is over. That is one thing we have here is winter. Last September, I wrote an article titled, “America’s Winter of Discontent”. Winter can be a tough time for many. Especially around Christmas time. Many today celebrate this holiday, but the season of celebrating for many goes from Thanksgiving to New Years. During that time, people can go through depression and turmoil. It is a fact that Christmas depression and related troubles hit many during this time. Factor in the ‘winter’, ‘cold’, and some being ‘alone’, it can bring on such troubles.

For years winter was a bothersome time to me, including holidays. Today, however, by the presence of the Lord and his power, it is no longer that way. Those times were times of struggling with the Lord over certain things I had gone through and his people. Yes, the people of God, the deacons, the Pastors, and I had a quarrel. It was a long running feud between me and the Lord. In the end, my ways, and the root of bitterness that had built up, were uprooted and torn to shreds by the power of God and my repentance. Although I was indeed harmed, through no fault of my own, or so I thought, by the so called people of God, I kept the wound festering and root growing. But the Lord helped to realize that this root was hurting me more than the people who had actually been part of it. One of my sins in that church was being to zealous. As many of you know, for I have said it on air, two deacons caught me alone on the stairwell on a Sunday am service and castigated my zeal for the Lord saying “we don’t want your kind here, your to zealous.” “Take your bags and go back to school and leave.” Soon I would go from believing I was in the perfect will of God to being with my family alone, in a different state, unemployed, and at Christmas. We were taught in school to always preach with your bags packed, but somehow, at this time, the teaching did not seem to help any!

I learned that my winter depressions, doldrums, and many of my problems were from the root of the trouble God had been working to get me to release. That was many years ago, but I remember it quite well. I could of saved myself years of anguish, if I had of listened. Isn’t that with all of us? Our regrets sometimes plague us? Our what if’s come to our side and beacon to us! It would of been better if we had only done this or that! All such voices come to mind from your collective memory, the flesh, and also the devil who see’s to it you don’t forget anything that he could use against your walk in the Lord. That is why our Lord came, to deliver from sins and to bring down the dark principalities and powers of the devil. He no longer reigns, unless we allow him too! We can be free! Today, right now you can access that freedom, but it will take faith and determination. I also found repentance to be key as well as letting go of all the hurt!

Colossians 2:14  Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
15  And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

I sit now writing this trying to let you know how much power the Lord has truly given us! Of course, it is his power, in us, through the Cross and the provision of the Holy Spirit in us. I also regress a minute here, as this month is the anniversary of my mothers death. For years she suffered. My wife and I battled in prayer and laying on of hands for her. We did see her come back and actually get to come home after one such fasting and prayer for her. In the end, she did not do as we prayerfully advised her to do. That was to seek the Lord, both her and my dad and get in with the Lord. Soon the enemy returned and her state worsened.

My dad simply could not bring himself to believe in any divine healing power. I don’t blame him, though, for my grandmother, a godly woman, died of breast cancer. All after deacons had come, anointed her with oil. When she died, my dad simply lost all hope in the Lords willingness or ability to heal today. With that, we battled his unbelief. He believed in the Lord alright, he simply did not accept that this included healing for him or his family. His mothers death devastated him. It was during the War, he was a young man, and had to take the threads of manhood quickly in both arena’s caring for his younger sister and brother.

When Christmas comes, I and many others see not only ‘vain exercises’ in this winter holiday but also with it a clamour for things. With it comes the knowledge of the suffering and death of my own mother at this time. I do have a heart for those who have lost loved ones. But the echo is here that we must realize that if they die in the Lord, they are in his hands. It is those who do not believe that will face wrath that are in a pitiful state. My mother was a methodist and did believe. One time when she was sick, she spoke to us of the “Lord telling her that it was not time yet for her to come home to be with him.” She did live on for quite a time after that. The long struggle for her and her death, was very painful to watch. But the Lord, in his mercy, guided our hearts into his bosom for comfort. Let me tell you that this is where you need to go! Only in his bosom, accessed by prayer, persistence, and a heart of love for him can you find it. There is that spot where the Lord meets us, in our troubles, depression, hurts, and anything else burdening you!

Proverbs 8:17  I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.
Jeremiah 29:13  And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.

Over the years my wife and I have buried other loved ones. Her mother was another case in point, a very difficult struggle. In the end, she went home to be with the Lord, but the continuance of wanting to be with those who have gone on, to talk to them, be with them, touch them, embrace and love them from your heart, this stays with us. It has been many years since both our mothers died and now we face what many others our age do, the continual death of loved ones, parents, friends, and acquaintances. That is why Christ came, to deliver those of us who believe from the sting of death! Friend, the grave is not to frighten us, for in Christ we have been delivered. The Apostle Paul says that if we have only hope in this life alone, we are miserable. The emphasis here is the power of what Christ did. Not to keep you in luxury on earth, but to deliver you from the pain and sting of death, with the separation from God being a prime importance. This is our hope in Christ, beyond this life, to be with Him and the Father. With all the heavenly host, and the ‘saints in white’ in glory, this is our hope!

The Prophet Hosea speaks of ‘redeeming them from death’!

Hosea 13:14  I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes.

The Apostle Paul also talks of death and the grave! “There is no sting, nor victory for the grave, because of the Lord Jesus Christ!”

1 Corinthians 15:55  O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

Today, through Christ, we are the general assembly, church of the firstborn [Jesus Christ], we are written in heaven through Christ, and unto God the Judge of all we are re-united as spotless through his blood. We through Christ, our spirits, that which lives on, that which is us, not our physical body, but our spirits are made perfect in Christ, being fully realized when we come to him in glory.

Hebrews 12:23  To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect

As I move through this ‘winter of discontent’ for many in America and the world, to me, through Christ, it is no longer a time of ‘discontent’, for my contentment is in Christ. My strength, my provision, my hope, my calling, my all in all, is in Him, who bore me through the depths of my own troubles on his shoulders and brought me safely to his shore of deliverance. He has done the same for my wife, and my children. None of which, as I, are without troubles, for the Lord saith, “in the world ye shall have tribulation, but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.” For me, that is my hope, he overcame, so can I. He will not leave me, so I can make it. I can bring my needs, my families needs, my loved ones, my friends, and all others to his throne for mercy and find help. This I do, so should you!

Philippians 1:15  Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will:
16  The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds:
17  But the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel.
18  What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.

For me, Christmas nor Hannakuh are not one of my holiday’s. As for Christmas I do not walk upon nor judge those who keep their Christmas targeted on Jesus Christ. Some keep Christmas as carnal, some keep it before God, but I rejoice, whether carnal or spiritual, Christ Jesus is spoken and preached, talked about and sought! As for Hannakuh, it does celebrate a miracle the Lord God caused for those who had hoped in Him to do. For us, the feasts of the Lord are ones to which we aspire to do with love in Him who has saved us, through Christ Jesus, Yshua Ha Massiach. But today, I remind you and myself that the true keeping of anything is truly found in keeping Christ Jesus who is our feast, our true holiday, the author and finisher of our Faith, Jesus Christ, at the forefront of our hearts, minds, and spirits.

For me, Christ is the true celebration. He is my bread of life, I have tasted of the Lord that he is good, gracious, merciful, and also a Father who guides and corrects. In this I am fully satisfied to be, in him. He is my feast, my holiday, for I have drank of the wine, of the cup, and fully embraced the blood that flowed from calvary. Thank God For this Hope we have!

Hebrews 12:1  ¶Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
2  Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

As I have covered many issues today in this one letter, I write this of the ‘mercy of God’, that the times ahead will be filled with trouble and tribulation for the nations, including America. In this trouble, is found the mercy of God, who will make his presence known. The harvest continues, there will be those who love and obey, then there are those who will be disobedient to the end. In the struggle, though, is found the mercy of God that will rescue any and all who will earnestly and heartfelt repent and look to him. No matter how ugly the sin stains are God is there to heal and redeem. This is mercy, year around on Gods calendar. If we celebrate anything at all, let us celebrate the fact of Gods mercy to deliver all who will repent from his fierce wrath. For surely he stirs and the nations will face his wrath and the kingdoms his rage. But for those who love him, he says in mercy to us:

Isaiah 26:20  ¶Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.
21  For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.

May this find you in Him, blessings to you,
The Watchman Dana G Smith
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To the Father with Love, In His Son

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To the Father with Love, In His Son
A Psalm
By the Watchman Dana G Smith

Keywords: Father, Son, loved, daughter, believe, Christ, Jesus, ransom

John 3:16  For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

fathers and sons love the cross

A Father loveth his son,
Yea, a father grieves with his son,
A father rejoices with his son,
Sorrow for sorrow,
Prayer for prayer,
Sadness for sadness,
Joy in victory,
Comfort in defeat,
Till he cometh to the stature,
Of the fullness to which God calls him.

John 16:26  At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you:

John 16:27  For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.

John 16:28  ¶I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.

As with the son,
So with the daughter,
To be loved,
To be nurtured,
To be a strength in weakness,
To be a song amidst defeat,
To be a fire lit, when warmth is needed,
Yea, to love these whom god has given,
This is my duty to them and to God.
What else can one do,
As a Father or as a Mother,
As a Parent,
As a child myself,
With an earthly parent, and an Heavenly Father,
What else can I do?
Born through Him who gave his life for me,
What else can I do?

Yea, to Him, I must be true!
For He, my Heavenly Father, gave His only son,
For my redemption,
And also yours,
For my children,
And also yours,
For my Wife,
And also yours,
For your husband,
For your friend,
For all who would repent and believe on him,
This is the truth to which we must be true.

It is true, My Father in Heaven so loved,
That he gave His only Son!
The Son so Loved the Father and us,
That he came, willingly,
To be spat upon,
To be beaten,
To be bloodied,
To be despised,
To be rejected,
To be crucified,
To give his life as a ransom,
For many or even just one!

A Fathers love,
Given to us,
So to this end, His love,
I must love,
I must for his sake,
I must for his sons sake,
The End to which he died,
That I would believe,
That I would repent,
That I would follow him,
Unto the end of my journey,
In Victory through Christ Jesus,
My Lord, to the glory of the Father.

This is the End, to which, my prayer,
The goal to which I work,
For my Son,
For my Daughter,
For my Wife,
For you,
For all whom God leads me too,
That to the end, you also,
Would come to know Him,
Our Father in heaven, through
His only Begotten Son,
Our Savior, Jesus Christ!

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No Balm, is there no Physician?

‘Is there no balm for healing? To the Laodacians, put on Eye salve that you may see properly!’


“No Balm in Gilead for the Rebellious”

Jeremiah 8:14  Why do we sit still? assemble yourselves, and let us enter into the defenced cities, and let us be silent there: for the LORD our God hath put us to silence, and given us water of gall to drink, because we have sinned against the LORD.

15  We looked for peace, but no good came; and for a time of health, and behold trouble!

20  The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved.

22  Is there no balm in Gilead; is there no physician there? why then is not the health of the daughter of my people recovered?

“Utter Rejection for a People who did not listen”

Jeremiah 14:19  Hast thou utterly rejected Judah? hath thy soul lothed Zion? why hast thou smitten us, and there is no healing for us? we looked for peace, and there is no good; and for the time of healing, and behold trouble!

20  We acknowledge, O LORD, our wickedness, and the iniquity of our fathers: for we have sinned against thee.

21  Do not abhor us, for thy name’s sake, do not disgrace the throne of thy glory: remember, break not thy covenant with us.

22  Are there any among the vanities of the Gentiles that can cause rain? or can the heavens give showers? art not thou he, O LORD our God? therefore we will wait upon thee: for thou hast made all these things.

Jeremiah 15:1  ¶Then said the LORD unto me, Though Moses and Samuel stood before me, yet my mind could not be toward this people: cast them out of my sight, and let them go forth.

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The Cup and the Baptism of Suffering

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The Cup and the Baptism of Suffering
by the Watchman Dana G Smith
Keywords: cup, baptism, Jesus, death, cross, suffering, righteous, judgment, church
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There are only certain ones who shall listen and truly hear the Lord. Those who are the Lord’s will hear his voice, everyone else will not! If they hear his voice, then, they shall follow him. If they obey his Word, then they will read these words and understand his Word in them.

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The righteous Judgment of God upon the end time church in the world. The judgment, the separation of the sheep from the shepherds, and the gathering of the remnant of God. The ‘cup and the baptism’ of the LORD is ours to drink and to fully undergo in his name.

We are told by the Apostle Peter that the “the time is come that ‘judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God.’ Here we see a divine separation that God, in his Righteous Judgment allows. Such a dividing line that through the ‘suffering’ as a Christian, God is righteous, in a judicial sense, allowing ‘suffering’ to be used in this sense to separate and judge those who believe. In the passages below regarding ‘judgment’ and ‘righteous judgment’, both are used in a context, in which, the believers are suffering as Christians. Pointedly here, persecuted and facing tribulation all because of Christ.  It is here we find that the Apostle Paul tells the Thessalonians in verse four of chapter one that ‘we glory in you in the churches of God’. Why did the Apostle and those with him glory as such? Because he says “For your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure.” It is the righteous judgment of God to allow this, sifting, shaking, and bringing believers in the true position with Christ, in which they share in Christ, in his sufferings!

Judgment:  krisis (??????, 2920) primarily denotes “a separating,” then, “a decision, judgment,” most frequently in a forensic sense, and especially of divine “judgment1, executing of divine judgment.

1 Peter 4:16  Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.
1 Peter 4:17  For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
Righteous G1342: ‘righteous, observing divine laws; in a judicial sense, passing just judgment on others.’
Judgment G2920: ‘a separating, then a decision, in executing divine judgment’
Rom 2:5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;

2 Thess 1: 4 So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure:
2 Thess 1:5  Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:

It is here that we must understand the depth of this and the calling associated with it. We find that the Apostles at the start did not really understand the mission of our Lord. Neither did they fully grasp the call and the level to which they must attain. Here in Matthew we find James and John coming to Jesus and asking to be able to sit, one on thy right hand and the other on thy left hand, in thy glory.  The point I bring here is not to understand why they asked, or that it was not the Lords to grant to sit there. The point here is that Jesus asked them plainly “can you drink of the cup that I drink of? And be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with?”

Mark 10:35  And James and John, the sons of Zebedee, come unto him, saying, Master, we would that thou shouldest do for us whatsoever we shall desire.
36  And he said unto them, What would ye that I should do for you?
37  They said unto him, Grant unto us that we may sit, one on thy right hand, and the other on thy left hand, in thy glory.
38  But Jesus said unto them, Ye know not what ye ask: can ye drink of the cup that I drink of? and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with?
39  And they said unto him, We can. And Jesus said unto them, Ye shall indeed drink of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptism that I am baptized withal shall ye be baptized:
40  But to sit on my right hand and on my left hand is not mine to give; but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared

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Perilous Times, Full Speed ahead in Faith

‘Though perilous times are here, it is full speed ahead with our faith in Jesus Christ, keeping his testimony and faith, knowing we are overcomers through this same faith in Christ!’


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2 Timothy 3:1  ¶This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come

The Results of it:

2 Timothy 3:12  Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution

The Admonition:

2 Timothy 3:14  But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;

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